Howto: Google Voice in Canada
Posted on July 15th, 2009 in Canada, Fring, Google Voice, iPhone | 73 Comments »
Update: Check here for invites.
Okay, so I just got my invite and I got googlevoice to work. In Canada. Sorta.
1. Getting the Invite:
https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googlevoiceinvite/ in case you haven’t already.
2. Wait
You just have to wait for an email invite… I know of no way to speed this up.
3. What to do with the email:
If you just click on the link in the invite email it’ll tell you that google voice isn’t offered in your country (unless you’re in the US) and won’t let you do anything. You need a US IP address. For this, use hotspot shield. Activate hotspot shield and click on the invite link in your email.
4. Account setup:
You’re not quite out of the woods yet. In the setup section you have to provide a phone number that will ring when someone calls your google voice number (ie a real phone). You put your number in the google voice setup page and it will call you. You then have to type a 2-digit code on your phone to activate the link. As google voice isn’t working outside the US right now you need a US number. Trying a Canadian (or other non-US) number will not work. There are a few ways around this:
Method 1: Just get a US number.
I have a SkypeIn number based in Rhode Island so I used that. If you want one it’s $18 for 3 months.
Method 2: Get a temporary US number.
You can get a temporary US number from a service like inumbr (currently down) or tossabledigits ($6.99) that will forward to your non-US phone.
Method 3: Get a US SIP number
This method requires a few steps.
- Register for a SIP account at IPTel. You will get an address like sip:username@iptel.org.
- Get a phone number from IPKall. You will have to input your SIP account information from step 1. There will be a bit of a delay before you get your assigned number.
- Set up a new your VOIP router or softphone with the SIP account information. Your username will be the one from iptel (“username” from step 1), and the proxy will be iptel.org
- Test it out by calling your US phone number from IPKall. If it works, then you can use your IPKall US number to activate google voice.
Note: This should in theory work with iPod Touch/iPhone if you set up a new SIP account in Fring. I tried activating this way but could not enter the 2 digit activation code using the Fring client. YMMV
UPDATE: Apparently area code 403 (Alberta) works for google voice natively, so if you have access to a 403 number you can skip step 3 and just use your regular number. Please comment back here with your results if it works.
So yeah, I have google voice with a phone number based in NYC. I also have a SkypeIn number based in Rhode Island.
Even if you get a US number now, you can change your google voice number at any time for $10. Get a US number now, change it to a Canadian (or any other) number later for $10, or just wait until it’s offered and grab a Canadian number from the get-go. Of course there isn’t really anything stopping you from getting a US number with one email address now and then getting a Canadian number for free later with another email address (and thus new google voice account) except you wouldn’t have all your old voicemails/settings/etc in your new account.
Once your account is set up, please be sure to click on the “Send Feedback” link at the top of your google voice management page and tell them you’d like to see service in Canada ASAP. Of course be stereotypically polite Canadians when you do it, but don’t spare the enthusiasm!
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Thanks for the comment. I’ve corrected my typo (I was thinking of the $6.99 plan when I wrote the article).
Thanks for this info it was very usefull,
All I need to do is wait for the invitation from google
Don’t worry too much Demio. I think the wait for an invite is down to just a few days now.
but will google voice allow you to forward your calls to a canadian number?
Not right now Momin, no. Apparently area code 403 in Alberta works but that’s it.
You can always sign up for google voice now with a US number and then start forwarding to a Canadian number when it is allowed.
I was able to make this work, and I do have a 403 number
Great news sameer! Thanks for the confirmation.
Oh yeah.
Got it to 403, I’m in Calgary.
Thanks for the info: One question though… Why bother getting Google Voice with a U.S. number if all your canadian friends need to call long distance to reach you?
One problem with getting a US number with one email address now and then getting a Canadian number later with another email address: You can only link ONE mobile phone to ONE account. I have tried with my two US accounts!
Trevor: Right now it’s mostly just to play with it. You do have the option of changing your google voice number to a Canadian number when they offer them for a $10 charge. There are a few benefits for us now though.
First, if you call the US a lot, then you can make free calls through your google voice account.
Second, if your friends have google voice, then all your calls to each other are therefore free.
Third, text messages are also free, in case you don’t have a good text plan (like me).
Fourth, it’s just kinda cool
It’s not a full working solution for Canadians yet, but this site is mainly to track progress as more things become available to us.
Erin: Thanks for that information!
It seems as though the $10 number change option is looking pretty good for us.
It definitely worked for the 403 number. No problems using it there.
A big thank you to your post, and especially the hole for the 403 area code. Got GV set up successfully!
Hi I am sorry but I am stuck at step three, I am not sure how to setup a voip or softphone, I am very new to this. could someone please clarify me on the third step.
Thanks for all your help in advance.
Hi Penduboy. I am on vacation right now but I will try to do some research for you. You basically need to find a voip client program for your PC which will allow you to set up a voip account and receive calls. Perhaps some of the other users can share their success stories. I’ll try to get back to you as soon as I can.
I think I may have found a way to get unlimited outgoing calls on a Canadian phone using GV for only $2.99 a month…
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=7cc641c90f11c9d1&hl=en
Hi Geroger ^
Thanks for your help and concern. Please enjoy your vacation and when your get back please help me, I am in no rush but I tried my best. I guess, I am stuck and can not move further without help. I will wait for you.
Have fun!
Regards, Pendu
i tried the iptel route but i got stuck waiting for ipkall, i used sipgate instead (you get a number right away), i used the sipgate number for verification on gv. If you have an iphone, sign up for gizmo5 and forward gv to that (this is after the initial verification), i use fring to recieve calls from gizmo.
I got invite from GV
IP Hide and activated with US Number
Once activated I verified my Canadian number (403)
Now all the calls go to my Canadian cell free of charge
I have US number with GV so that now my friends, family and work mates can dial US number in US which usually is free for them since on most cell phone carriers they give you Nationwide calling, so people can call my (707) California GV number and free of charge it will connect them to my Canadian cell phone that I have with Unlimited Incoming minutes.
I LOVE GOOGLE VOICE!
Just got my Google voice invite, set it up luck me im in Alberta with a 403 cell phone, set up went OK got a number in Nebraska, using gv mobile on my iphone, works like a charm, people cant call me without paying long distance but because Google voice calls me to make the call i get free us and Canadian calling, texting is obviously free, i cant wait till i can get a Canadian number for 10$ its worth it!
Here a video on youtube that shows how to do the FRING/SIPphone setup. The only problem is that it’s not in english but just follow the directions and you should get it to work. He will answer you in english though if you send him a message on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ppRWejJQ5Y&feature=related
I got it all set up…BUT…my problem, is that I’m from NORTHERN Alberta (780) and not southern alberta (403 — which still works, I checked it with my friends cell, LOL). I could switch to a 403 number. But would it be worth it??? (I’m especially looking at your 403’s with google voice).
Anyone else with any other ideas?
I live in northern Alberta and thus have a 780 number.
If I activate my GV account with a 403 number, can I then change my account preferences to have GV ring my 780 number for making calls?
Adam: Nope, no way to do that yet. If there was, then everyone would activate using a US number, then switch over to their regular home number.
Nice try though
Yeah, didn’t think so.
I don’t understand, I requested the invite 3 months ago but nothing, the website still says it’s only available for GrandCentral users…
I have it working on my 604 area code (Its still a US number for voice). I got it when GV used to be GranCentral.
This is really cool. I have a couple questions I hope you can clarify for me. If I have a 403 area code number do I skip step 3 or 4? If I use 403 area code would that be my GV #? For $10 can you change your number to a Canadian number? thanks for your help
KWC: Skip step 4. You still need a proxy to activate the account. It should work if you just put in your 403 area code number.
Not sure when it happened but the 403 area code is no longer accepted. The following message is displayed:
“There are no 403 area code numbers available at this time.”
Wayne: You never could get a 403 phone number. The nice thing about 403 is you can get your US google voice number to forward calls to your 403 phone. You can’t do that in any other area code in Canada.
These are great ideas. Question: I live in Canada but also have a US address. If I get a cell phone based in the US but then use GV in Canada, will my calls be subject to any additional fees? Any insights are gladly received. Thanks.
Hi Chris,
It seems as though you won’t be subject to any additional fees as google voice calls to Canada are now free. This is just how it seems to work to me, so I’d appreciate it if you could try it out and let us know if you get charged. You get $0.10 of free GV airtime so you have nothing to lose.
I went to voipstreet.com and purchased a Calgary DID phone number and set the fail over to my GV number. Now I have a second local number that only costs me $10/month plus $0.02/min. Not a free option but a pretty cheap business line for me.
You can set up multiple google voice accounts but can only link 1 account to 1 real number. Work around…link 1 google voice to the next to the next to the next to the real number! Enjoy.
you can get a free number from http://www.freephoneline.ca for all major cities in Canada.
FreePhoneLine only offers free numbers in Ontario and Quebec…
hotspot shield does it work with snow lepoard? how to then specify US IP, How to get US skype in No.?
Hi Jim,
You’re right, unfortunately hotspotshield doesn’t work with Snow Leopard (as of right now anyways). You could either find another free US proxy, or just wait for hotspotshield to get fixed, or use a different computer.
If you want to try a different proxy, try searching google for “free proxy”. Some work better than others.
403 is fine as of November 1st 2009 for forwarding. gv
@Dennis
What carrier did you select with your 403 number? I tried AT&T but I get an error when activating the services…
I think you may be trying to set the 403 number up as the primary google voice number and you can’t because of the carrier choice but you can set up a google american number and forward to 403. The only CDN area you can forward to
What are the risks in giving out your number to the US SIP sites at sign-up?
Hey guys, if you have an Android phone or an iPhone (Jailbroken) and download the GV app then you can make unlimited calls to anywhere in North America now, provided you have unlimited incoming. The way it works is you dial the number you want to call in the GV app and it sends the command out to GV and that calls your phone back and then calls the number you want to call. Txting to anywhere in the world is also free btw.
I was lucky to get a grandcentral account right before Google bought them out so it works with my Toronto (416) number.
It’s a great workaround if you have a data plan but not enough daytime minutes with unlimited incoming. Of course if you’re in a wifi zone then that works too to start the call. The call doesn’t use your data since it’s just calling your phone directly rather than using VoIP.
Use Magic Jack – costs C$39.00 (eqpt+one year n.america unlimited calls). you get a us number with magic jack
I used magicjack for two years. The quality was horrible. This may have been in part because I was running it on an XP virtual machine under a linux host. All the same, it sucked. The USB dongle thing also gets hot.
The value of google voice that I see is the free long distance calls for you (not for your friends). If you can get google voice to call your phone number then you can get it to call somebody long distance and call your phone at the same time thereby connecting you long distance for free in Canada and USA.
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you got it complicated a lot for canadian user … i am canadian and i found a way faster …. get a magicjack.com then choose a us number foward it … then use your google voice account … at least you magik jack you can choose a us number and after in the futur you could change it for whaterver you want
hotspot shield works, 403 number works (im in calgary), only issue is when i get to choose a carrier in the setup my carrier is not listed and thus I cant complete the setup
any ideas?
Hi Patrick: I am aware of magic jack and have ordered one for testing and review. I didn’t have one at the time I wrote the article so I just went with what I had personally checked.
Andrew: It sounds like you are trying the “use google voice mail” sign up, and not the full google voice sign up. If you are just using google voice mail to replace your original voicemail, then you have to provide your carrier if I remember correctly. I do not believe this exists in the full google voice signup procedure, but if it does, you can try just selecting some random setting to see if it works.
Had access with a 519 number last year, but contract ran out and I couldnt port the number to my new carrier (bell)…now my new 519 number wont work :<. booo. I wonder why google is allowing 403?
I got a 403 number and I got google voice…thanks to this blog!
However, it seems that I cannot make any calls using google voice to others in Canada without getting dinged. Shouldn’t this be free since they made NA calling free? Is it only free if the google voice cellphone is in US?
Does your Gizmo5 workaround fix this issue? Any other workaround?
Thanks
Hi Ashan,
How are you getting dinged? Is your google voice account costing money (ie, the free $0.10 they give you going down), or is it that your regular phone is getting charged?
Your regular phone will still have to “call” your google voice number, so you still pay that amount in airtime, or minutes, or however your phone contract is set up. The google voice account should not go down though, and if it is we should try to figure out exactly why. Are you calling from Canada to Canada?
hey,
I’m calling from Canada (using Google Voice through my 403 #) to a Canadian #….and my google voice account ($.10) is depleting.
btw, I initiated the call through the google voice online interface…so I get a call from my google voice # to my 403 cell, which then connected to the 519 #
Called a few numbers in Canada tonight – 0.02 per minute. They were free yesterday. Is Google now starting to charge to Canada again? I wish they’d make up their mind…toll-free, toll, toll-free, toll.
Really? Wow. This is interesting news. Hopefully it’s just a glitch in the google voice setup and isn’t permanent. I’ll post this on the main page and will keep it updated.
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I want to verify something.
Once i get my US number, google will let me change numbers to any number? So i can then pay them $10 and get a 416/647 number?
I use a service called voip.ms; you can get numbers all over the place (including Canada). For $1.50 a month you can get a DID in one of many areas, then pay about $0.01/min for NA wide calling.
The service has lots of features…
I have bought a Nexus One phone, and by using the phone to sign up, hey presto, I activated Google Voice on my account!
I bought my Nexus One via expansys.ca and I’m using Fido. I have tested so far with international dialing, which works seamlessly. I have not yet tried to set up Voicemail, this may be a bit more problematic but I will try later.
-Jev
Hi Jev are u just getting a data package from fido with no voice? if so how much u pay for it…I am a current fido customer as well with a Google Nexus One…but I can’t get the Google Voice working…I am still waiting for a Google Voice invite…and btw how many MB have u used by making phone calls over 3G? I heard that 2 hours of videochat via Skype on the Iphone can use up as much as 350MB….
It seems that Google now added an additional requirement — when adding a phone number to Google Voice, we must now also select from a list of “supported carriers” (e.g., AT&T, T-Mobile, etc).
Unfortunately this change seems to close the “loophole” of forwarding calls from a Skype In number (or other call forwarding service)…
I have an invite, live in Calgary, Alberta and have a mobile with Rogers/Fido. I enter in my mobile number, get the call and I enter in the two digit verification code, then create a pin. After that it states that it can’t find my carrier and asks me to select from the drop down list. The list only has US based providers and not the Canadian ones.
I randomly chose Verizon and it gives me a number to call – called it but it says that the call could not be completed (with a female voice on the other line).
Do I just click continue from there? or did the process not complete?
Any help from other Albertans would be nice. Thanks!
-TT
I think you guys are going through the googlevoicemail only setup. You’re just adding google voice features to your existing number, so yeah you’ll get this problem.
If you request a new google voice number I don’t think you’ll have this issue. You’ll get a US google voice number, but will be able to use your Canadian phone with it.
You are correct George —
I did indeed sign up just for the Googlevoicemail only setup (now am wishing that I had signed up for the Google Number)
Unfortunately having now made this mistake, the system requires that I register a phone number with a “supported” mobile carrier (doesn’t provide any option to go back and obtain a google number)…
I have a San Francisco Googlevoice # that easily forwards to my Alberta 403 phone number.
Hello,I live in Ontario, Canada and am deaf. I was wondering could I use this number to dial a IPRelay service such as SipRelay,Purple to dial back into Canada to contact friends and family.
Thanks
Brian
Brian: That’s a great question! I will look into it for you. Give me a little time to work on it.
The missing link to this is MagicJack!! It costs $20 for the year of service and you can forward that number to your Canadian phone. Then if you have an iPhone or other web enabled phone and if you have incoming calls free on your plan, then just bring up the webpage for google voice and put in the number you want to call in the form and press call. Google voice will call your phone (free call because it’s incoming) then once you answer, it will initiate the call to the other party. Talk until your battery runs out for free!!