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		<title>fringOut Launches &#8211; Worldwide Calls for 1¢ per Minute</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fring has just launched a new service called fringOut, which gives users of Fring the ability to call phone numbers worldwide for 1 cent per minute. This seems to be a response to Skype&#8217;s SkypeOut service, and Google&#8217;s &#8220;gmail talk&#8221; feature. Currently, the mobile version of fringOut is only available for Nokia, but Android and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wifitalk.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fringOut.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1120" title="fringOut" src="http://www.wifitalk.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fringOut.png" alt="" width="253" height="249" /></a>Fring has just launched a new service called f<a href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=2494">ringOut</a>, which gives users of Fring the ability to call phone numbers worldwide for 1 cent per minute. This seems to be a response to Skype&#8217;s SkypeOut service, and Google&#8217;s &#8220;gmail talk&#8221; feature. Currently, the mobile version of fringOut is only available for Nokia, but Android and iOS apps are coming soon.</p>
<p>Fring has generally been quick to respond to feature requests and updates, which is good from a consumer point of view. With the addition of a call out feature, it begs the question of when a fringIn service will launch, allowing users to buy a phone number so they can receive calls through Fring. With call out rates as low as 1¢/min worldwide, and 0.4¢/min in North America, Fring is making a significant play in this area. If call quality is acceptable, and fringIn becomes a reality, a cross-platform app and service such as Fring could become the best way to set up your personal voice communication network.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>fringOut low-cost international calls to any phone number</strong><br />
You can make ‘almost-free’ mobile calls to family and friends not yet on fring to ANY phone. Call more than 200 countries from 1c/min<br />
- Canada from 0.4 cents<br />
- UK from 0.6 cents<br />
- India from 1.1 cents</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Skype vs Fring</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Skype]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fring]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that Skype and Fring are not getting along so well today. First, Fring made a claim that Skype was blocking Fring and in a subsequent blog post, called Skype cowards. Now that fring expanded capacity to support the huge demand for video calling for all users, Skype has blocked us from doing so. They are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Skype and Fring are not getting along so well today.</p>
<p>First, Fring made a <a title="Skype blocks Fring" href="http://www.fring.com/newsroom/skypeblocksfring.asp">claim that Skype was blocking Fring</a> and in a subsequent blog post, called Skype <a title="Fring claims Skype is blocking them." href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=2322">cowards</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Now that fring expanded capacity to support the huge demand for video calling for all users, <a href="http://www.fring.com/newsroom/skypeblocksfring.asp">Skype has blocked us from doing so</a>.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>They are afraid of open mobile communication. Cowards.</p></blockquote>
<p>Skype has <a title="Skype responds to Fring" href="http://blogs.skype.com/en/2010/07/fring.html">responded</a>, stating that Fring&#8217;s mis-use of Skype software was damaging their brand and reputation.</p>
<blockquote><p>there is no truth to Fring’s claims that Skype has blocked it. Fring made the decision to remove Skype functionality on its own.</p></blockquote>
<p>The issue revolves around video calling. Fring was very quick to jump on iOS 4&#8242;s ability to <a title="Fring iOS4 video calling" href="http://www.fring.com/newsroom/2wayVideoRelease.asp">make video calls</a>, and enabled the feature in their mobile clients, allowing Fring users to video chat with each other on their iPhone 4s. Fring doesn&#8217;t provide a VOIP service themselves, but rather they allow connectivity between users on other networks, similar to how trillian, gaim, and adium allow a user to log in to their google talk, msn, AIM, and Yahoo messenger accounts through a single program. One of the networks Fring users can log in to is Skype. Fringsters could talk to their Skype contacts through their Skype account using their Skype number to make and receive VOIP calls.</p>
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<p>Now Fring is claiming that Skype is blocking Fring from allowing users to access the Skype network, cutting of Skype functionality in Fring.</p>
<p>However, Skype claims this is untrue and that Fring removed the functionality themselves, furthermore claiming that Fring is mis-using Skype software.</p>
<p>Skype&#8217;s client does not offer many of the new iOS4 features that Fring is quick to jump on, namely video calling, background operation, and even push notifications which have been around for a long time. One could argue that Fring&#8217;s client allows Skype users to use these features with Skype, which is something that users want. Skype is notoriously slow at adopting new features such as these, and is also slow at their geographical expansion. You still cannot get a Canadian Skype-In number, but there are a host of Canadian VOIP services offering phone numbers for example.</p>
<p>Skype says this is because they want to maintain a high level of quality with their service and client, preferring to leave a feature out as opposed to implementing it at any level below polished. This is similar to how Apple operates (the iPhone was able to handle backgrounding applications via jailbreak, but it did slow things down, so Apple waited until only recently to allow this functionality as it didn&#8217;t live up to their usage level requirements).</p>
<p>The problem with this view is that Skype should realize that its users are people who want to try out new features &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t be using mobile VOIP if you weren&#8217;t. Why go through the trouble of setting up a Skype account, paying for extra phone service, and jailbreaking your phone so you can get Skype running in the background if all you wanted was simple voice calling which your iPhone already provides? It&#8217;s because you are willing to go through some effort and hassle to get some cheap long distance. If you were relatively techno-illiterate, you&#8217;d be willing to pay the slightly higher long distance rates through your voice plan in order to avoid the extra steps. These are not Skype users. Skype users want features and are willing to put up with some issues to get them. That&#8217;s why people use Fring.</p>
<p>The sooner Skype realizes this and at least releases a second version of their app (call it the beta or testing version) &#8211; in parallel to their stable client &#8211; that enables these features, the better for them.</p>
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		<title>Skype Over 3G Works Now</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a mad rush to enabling VOIP over 3G on the iPhone today. First, iCall announced VOIP over 3G, then Fring hopped on board, and everyone was waiting for Skype to join in. The discussion even hit slashdot, and people started testing it out. Well, according to at least one slashdotter, Skype [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a mad rush to enabling VOIP over 3G on the iPhone today. First, <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/apple-lifts-voip-over-cellular-restrictions-in-new-iphone-sdk/">iCall</a> announced VOIP over 3G, then <a href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1983">Fring hopped on board</a>, and everyone was waiting for <a href="http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/skype-updates-3g-ready-and-waiting/">Skype</a> to join in. The discussion even hit <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/01/28/1823211/With-New-SDK-VoIP-Over-3G-Apps-Now-Working-On-iPhone">slashdot</a>, and people started testing it out.</p>
<p>Well, according to at least one slashdotter, <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1528538&amp;cid=30941662">Skype works over 3G </a>without issue now too.</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>I just tried skype on my iPhone&#8230;went through on 3g with no problems</em></p>
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<p>If nothing else, this at least means cheap long distance on the iPhone, and possibly quite a bit of free talk as well if the calls are skype-to-skype. Some reports are that VOIP over 3G is of spotty quality. Any users care to chime in?</p>
<p><strong>edit:</strong> it seems the skype client still doesn&#8217;t work, but you can use Fring to call out over 3G using skype-out</p>
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		<title>Fring Enables VOIP Over 3G on iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.wifitalk.ca/fring/fring-enables-voip-over-3g-on-iphone/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[That didn&#8217;t take long. Fring Blog You wanted it, immediately after Apple allowed it, fring launches its 3G-friendly VoIP app. With fring on 3G, users get unrestricted, mobile communication. Now iPhone fring users can call, video call, chat and more for FREE over 3G and wifi! And the best thing? You don&#8217;t have to do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That didn&#8217;t take long.</p>
<p><a title="Fring Enables VOIP Over 3G" href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1983">Fring Blog</a></p>
<blockquote>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1629"><em>You wanted it</em></a><em>, immediately after Apple allowed it, fring launches its 3G-friendly VoIP app.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>With fring on 3G, users get unrestricted, mobile communication. Now iPhone fring users can call, video call, chat and more for FREE over 3G and wifi!</em></p>
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<p>And the best thing? You don&#8217;t have to do anything to turn the feature on!</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><em>How do I get this update?</em></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>You don’t need to do </em><strong><em>anything </em></strong><em>to get this update. Just open fring on your iPhone and you are good to go!</em></p>
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